Curious About Radical Non-Duality But Hate Videos?

The essential message of radical non-duality, as opposed to more historical types of non-duality, is that there is no ‘you’ — no separate person or thing, no self, no ‘awareness’ or ‘consciousness’ or ‘enlightenment’ or liberation, no self-control or choice or volition or agency or responsibility, no time or space, no life or death, no path or process to get closer to the ‘truth’, no knowledge or experience, no meaning or purpose. ‘You’ are an illusion, a “psychosomatic understanding” that evolved accidentally in the brain, a “useless piece of software” that is not needed, and the absence of which changes nothing. All there is is nothing appearing as everything.

This is not a teaching, nor is it spiritual. It is a message, an attempt to illuminate this understanding. Apparently, that illusory self can seem to fall away, and all that is left is everything. But there is no process for making it happen or even making it more likely to happen. You can get a pretty clear conceptual understanding of this message, but that doesn’t get ‘you’ anywhere. ‘You’ are separation, duality.

It is possible for ‘glimpses’ to happen — the self appears to fall away for a while, revealing the truth of this message, revealing, amazingly, everything as it really is, but then the self comes back. When that happens the self is left in a kind of limbo — it knows intellectually and intuitively that it does not exist, but it has no choice but to continue to navigate its apparent life and world as if it and they were real. That is where ‘I’ am ‘now’.

Tony Parsons and Jim Newman have made many videos of their meetings, available on YouTube. They both say that there is no longer a Tony or Jim, and in fact there never was. ‘No one’ makes these videos and ‘no one’ attends the meetings. But there seems to be something in the character known as Tony or Jim with a predisposition to present this hopeless, uncompromising message, and discuss it with whoever is interested in doing so. They prefer the dynamics of meetings and videos over essays or books about the message, which tend to be dry and lack the useful interactivity of the meetings’ Q&A format.

Some people have told me that while they’re interested in the message (which seems more and more aligned with the latest learnings in neuroscience, quantum theory and astrophysics, and consistent with the ideas of several modern philosophers), they can’t bear watching or listening to recordings. So for them I have made lightly-edited transcripts of the opening remarks from three of Tony’s recordings:

  1. 2012 meeting: Original audio here. My transcript is here, part of a blog post which also discusses what were perhaps ‘glimpses’ in ‘my’ apparent past.
  2. 2018 meeting: London, June. Original video here. My transcript is here.
  3. 2011 meeting: Original audio removed. My transcript is here.

I’m working on transcripts of parts of Jim’s meetings too. I attended Tony’s meeting in Wales in the summer of 2017, and Jim’s in Vancouver last October (2018).

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2 Responses to Curious About Radical Non-Duality But Hate Videos?

  1. Thanks again Dave, for these naked thoughts and revelations. Yes, I wholeheartedly agree with all that

    I went through it once, years ago now. And the self came back although less strong than before – one difference there.
    Another difference is that you realise that there’s no enlightenment – I mockingly call myself de-lighted now – and that’s a bonus as well, being able to end the longing for reaching the top or whatever you call it

    I’ve read the first transcript now, it is exactly what it is. Saving the rest for tonight – and there will be highly likely a lot more to come.
    I never heard of these people Dave, thank you very much!

  2. Has been a while since I read your writings but my email subscription reminds me you’re still there. Read the Tony Parsons transcript and might have read that post two years ago but can’t remember.

    This might have been good timing as recently my chattering mind has been getting on my nerves related to “stuff” in life, and a lot of that is replaying arguments with myself trying to make sense of what is “me” and what is a result of being fed ideas. I forgot that you’d said all this already in some form.

    I am pinned between much of this making sense and that I’m responsible for providing for two children and have to “do” “things” to help them cope. Yet this probably comes under the idea that the connection with the children is the fundamental experience and I’m compelled to do what I can yet there is only so much I can “do”…

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