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		<title>Comment on How Many Relationships Can We Manage? by John Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Answer to your question: zero.

The title of this post ouched me; perhaps &quot;managing relationships&quot; is an oxymoron. Perhaps managing is exactly the wrong metaphor. I&#039;d try &quot;tending&quot;.

Manage objects. Love people. Tend to relationships.
(perhaps I&#039;ve experienced too much burning from efforts at third-party relationship-management)

Now how many relationships can I consistently tend to? This is quite and urgent question for me as part of an intentional community, which is just slightly too big to let tending every relationship be humanly possible. I only just realised this, so thankyou.

By the way, it&#039;s really meant heaps to me just having my name sitting there in your gravitational community list. Your little gestures of recognition can mean so much, when many of us have struggled in environments where recognition is a long time coming. 

Don&#039;t underestimate the potential for intimate and meaningful relationship via small gestures. The potential here is limitless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Answer to your question: zero.</p>
<p>The title of this post ouched me; perhaps &#8220;managing relationships&#8221; is an oxymoron. Perhaps managing is exactly the wrong metaphor. I&#8217;d try &#8220;tending&#8221;.</p>
<p>Manage objects. Love people. Tend to relationships.<br />
(perhaps I&#8217;ve experienced too much burning from efforts at third-party relationship-management)</p>
<p>Now how many relationships can I consistently tend to? This is quite and urgent question for me as part of an intentional community, which is just slightly too big to let tending every relationship be humanly possible. I only just realised this, so thankyou.</p>
<p>By the way, it&#8217;s really meant heaps to me just having my name sitting there in your gravitational community list. Your little gestures of recognition can mean so much, when many of us have struggled in environments where recognition is a long time coming. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t underestimate the potential for intimate and meaningful relationship via small gestures. The potential here is limitless.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Not So SMART: Replicating (Instead of Growing) Natural Small Organizations by ahbuhkxm</title>
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		<dc:creator>ahbuhkxm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on First Principles by gvzkvtzq</title>
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		<dc:creator>gvzkvtzq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on How Many Relationships Can We Manage? by Janene</title>
		<link>http://howtosavetheworld.ca/2010/03/10/how-many-relationships-can-we-manage/comment-page-1/#comment-18015</link>
		<dc:creator>Janene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey --

I dunno why its not piging automatically... but here you go:  http://terrapraeta.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/time-well-spent/

J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8211;</p>
<p>I dunno why its not piging automatically&#8230; but here you go:  <a href="http://terrapraeta.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/time-well-spent/" rel="nofollow">http://terrapraeta.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/time-well-spent/</a></p>
<p>J</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hacking Massively Complicated Systems by Resistance is Futile &#171; Eros Philia Agape</title>
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		<dc:creator>Resistance is Futile &#171; Eros Philia Agape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] recent discussions around the blogosphere. Dave has been writing about overt resistance strategies, Hacking Massively Complicated Systems and Throwing off the Shackles of Debt. Both intrigue me: I&#8217;m not sure yet whether his [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on How Many Relationships Can We Manage? by Janene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave --

I think the answers to your final questions are all contained within your graphics and text, you just shied away from putting it out there boldly.

&lt;i&gt;Real&lt;/i&gt; community requires *place* in order to be... what?... complete?  Is that a good word for it?  Maybe.

&lt;I&gt;Deep Relationship&lt;/i&gt;... intimacy whether physical, intellectual, emotional or a combination... requires *time* to develop and to maintain.

Even the most casual social relationships... I&#039;m thinking here about &quot;people you know&quot; without any real relationship behind it at all... even these take time to develop and time to maintain.  (For example, people I considered &quot;regular customers&quot; at my job.  Maybe don&#039;t even know their names, I just know them in that context.  Now that I no longer have that job, if I don&#039;t see them for a period of time, it will be very awkward to even walk up and say hi on the street.  Because the relationship was not developed enough to go beyond basic awareness, and once I am no longer engaging them regularly, that dawning relationship will fizzle.)

So... if the goal is to build a strong, intimate core, with a spiral of gradually less intimate social relationships the only way to make that really work -- especially with a place-relationship -- is to have a community, tied to a place, with constantly overlapping interactions.  Work, play, life in general, must be integrated with the group and the place.

hmmmm.... I need to think on this a little more to put my words together... but I will.... :-)

Janene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave &#8211;</p>
<p>I think the answers to your final questions are all contained within your graphics and text, you just shied away from putting it out there boldly.</p>
<p><i>Real</i> community requires *place* in order to be&#8230; what?&#8230; complete?  Is that a good word for it?  Maybe.</p>
<p><i>Deep Relationship</i>&#8230; intimacy whether physical, intellectual, emotional or a combination&#8230; requires *time* to develop and to maintain.</p>
<p>Even the most casual social relationships&#8230; I&#8217;m thinking here about &#8220;people you know&#8221; without any real relationship behind it at all&#8230; even these take time to develop and time to maintain.  (For example, people I considered &#8220;regular customers&#8221; at my job.  Maybe don&#8217;t even know their names, I just know them in that context.  Now that I no longer have that job, if I don&#8217;t see them for a period of time, it will be very awkward to even walk up and say hi on the street.  Because the relationship was not developed enough to go beyond basic awareness, and once I am no longer engaging them regularly, that dawning relationship will fizzle.)</p>
<p>So&#8230; if the goal is to build a strong, intimate core, with a spiral of gradually less intimate social relationships the only way to make that really work &#8212; especially with a place-relationship &#8212; is to have a community, tied to a place, with constantly overlapping interactions.  Work, play, life in general, must be integrated with the group and the place.</p>
<p>hmmmm&#8230;. I need to think on this a little more to put my words together&#8230; but I will&#8230;. :-)</p>
<p>Janene</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Many Relationships Can We Manage? by uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by DavePollard: How Many Relationships Can We Manage? http://goo.gl/fb/yw2P...</description>
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		<dc:creator>Too Many Blackberrys &#171; ColdSip.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>pharmacy tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great resource!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Coping With Complexity by Alan Post</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Post</dc:creator>
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		<description>I love the pidgin sign you&#039;ve developed for remembering this list.  I use ASL signs for remembering the steps of NVC (observations, feelings, need, requests) and for ORID (A debriefing technique consisting of observation, reflection, introspective, and decisions.)  As a tool, I find signing to be an easier way for me to remember techniques like this.  I&#039;ve stayed mostly within ASL, however; your system has given me a new perspective.

Some short while ago, Alison Shaffer published a list of daily spiritual practices that she called &quot;Practicing the Daily Simple.&quot;[1]  I find her list interesting to compare to yours, as they both practice the same skills.  Up until your list calls for collaboration and engagement with other people.  Practicing Alison&#039;s daily simple could be seen as practice for the elements of your list that can be practiced alone.

[1]: http://paganpages.org/content/2010/01/song-of-a-daily-druid-5/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the pidgin sign you&#8217;ve developed for remembering this list.  I use ASL signs for remembering the steps of NVC (observations, feelings, need, requests) and for ORID (A debriefing technique consisting of observation, reflection, introspective, and decisions.)  As a tool, I find signing to be an easier way for me to remember techniques like this.  I&#8217;ve stayed mostly within ASL, however; your system has given me a new perspective.</p>
<p>Some short while ago, Alison Shaffer published a list of daily spiritual practices that she called &#8220;Practicing the Daily Simple.&#8221;[1]  I find her list interesting to compare to yours, as they both practice the same skills.  Up until your list calls for collaboration and engagement with other people.  Practicing Alison&#8217;s daily simple could be seen as practice for the elements of your list that can be practiced alone.</p>
<p>[1]: <a href="http://paganpages.org/content/2010/01/song-of-a-daily-druid-5/" rel="nofollow">http://paganpages.org/content/2010/01/song-of-a-daily-druid-5/</a></p>
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