Photo by Steve Raker In one of my recent posts I mentioned that despite loving people, I generally prefer the company of wilder creatures (pets and wild animals) to that of humans. When I visit the homes of people I love, or acquaintances, or complete strangers, I naturally gravitate to any non-humans there, and they seem to be attracted to me too. In blathering to Patti the other day I tried to articulate the possible reasons for this:
Of course, they don’t converse very well, at least not using spoken language. That doesn’t prevent them from communicating effectively, though, if you pay attention. That might seem to be reason enough for what some see as my misanthropy. After all, instead of having to put up with people’s expectations, pre-judgements, and mostly uninteresting conversations, you can instead spend your time with beautiful creatures who (seem to) enjoy your attention and companionship even if you are ugly and incoherent. But I confess there may be another reason on top of all these. I am, at heart, lazy. I don’t like to work hard, and my observations of nature suggest to me that this isn’t unusual among wild creatures, or particularly shameful. The delightful moments I spend with wild creatures are easy, carefree times. Yet I do love conversation with, and the company of, some people. I have a tendency to browse crowds for people with certain capacities — five in particular:
When I find people with some of these qualities, I tend to corner them (or dance them outside) for one-on-one conversations. When I don’t find anyone with these qualities, I get discouraged and seek out any (resident-or-nearby) non-humans (the family pets, or the birds outside). So, put simply, I tend to love the company of (a) a few extraordinarily profound and stimulating humans and (b) most wilder creatures, thanks to their innate presence and grace. At an earlier stage of life I would have added exceptional physical beauty to the list of qualities above. I’m still very much attracted to such people, but I’ve discovered (limited data, I confess) that they rarely seem to have any of the other five qualities (possibly because they don’t need them). As a result, I’ve found it more amusing to observe them from a distance than to try to engage them in conversation. I imagine they would make wonderful sexual partners, but I expect I’m too lazy to find out. I have often said that we love who we imagine others to be, and not who they really are, because, after all, we can never really know who other people are (my recently-divorced friends in particular tell me this). So it is possible that I am subconsciously exaggerating (or even inventing) the qualities of people who I find lovable, and under-estimating those qualities in people I do not, and imagining wilder creatures to be more complex, present and graceful than they really are. I suspect I am not alone in this, and that while other people’s “top 5 desired qualities” lists undoubtedly vary (great bod, good sense of humour, attentiveness, generosity, appreciation and good personal hygiene would probably be on many), most people probably imagine the objects of their affection to be other, and more, than who they really are. How else can we explain the desire of so many women to “improve” their men (make them more who they imagined them to be before they got to know them better), and the propensity of so many men to avoid any meaningful conversation with their partners that might shatter their illusions? The lessons for me, I think, are obvious. I need to be more open to the qualities of every human I meet, less judgemental (though I am getting better at this, except when my usually-accurate instincts get in the way), more attentive, and less carried away by my imagination. If I were to do this, I might find almost everyone lovable, and that would certainly make me more appreciative, more positive, more optimistic, better company (for most), and more present. I might possibly learn to be humble, or even graceful. I am going to practice this. Perhaps it is the approaching winter, but of late I am more preoccupied with the search to find the place where I belong (I am starting to believe it is even more important to find this place than to find the people I belong with), and settle down with whatever lovable people I can find there or attract to that place. If I really want to create a Natural Intentional Community it may be time for me to just start, instead of being preoccupied with its ideals and principles and purpose. The people in the Gravitational Community list in the right sidebar are mostly people I can imagine living in community with. I can picture what their (your) chosen roles might be, based on what each of them (you) do so well, and seem to love doing. I can imagine nothing more joyful, or more important, than us doing this together, purposefully, collaboratively, lovingly, helping each other out to be who we really are, to be who we are intended to be, showing the world that there is a better way. My wild animal friends seem to have figured this all out. Start with finding the right place, the place you belong. Then find the right fellow-creatures to love and live with and make a living with, and herd them to that place. The rest — what to do, how to get along, how and who to be — is all collectively self-managed, and should work itself out naturally. Category: Intentional Community
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once you go mac (or is that ‘black’?) you’ll never go back, or so they say…This was an interesting post to me, as I’ve found myself in these same types of situations my entire adult life. I go to some sort of gathering and there’s no one there to talk to. If there’s a kid or pet around, I’ll play with him/her. We can amuse ourselves for a long time with not much. Often this feels anti-social for some of the reasons you’ve elaborated on in other posts, but mostly it feels authentic to me. I’d really rather play something outside with a 3 year old or a golden retriever than talk about the stuff at most adult gatherings. So…in the last few years, maybe 5, I’ve made it a point to not go to those types of gatherings. I have so many people in my life now that I enjoy and we have great fun together (mostly in my 1st or 2nd degree communities) that I no longer worry about having someone to be social with. This is a clear turn around on my part. My insistence that gathering with people of similar values–especially those with differing opinions within those values–is time that is chosen and well spent. Thanks for this post, Dave. I’ve always felt like a social misfit, but I see that I was possibly just running with the wrong herd or pack or flock or something.
I remember having once seen a study that determined that _any_ communication involving people increased stress levels, while spending time with pets lowerd stress levels. Seems in line with your own observations.
Thanks Beth & Dale. Likewise I try to avoid social occasions where I’m not particularly fond of the people attending, but it’s not always possible, and sometimes it’s good practice being open, anyway.
This post seems far away from “Love, community and conversation…” Part of ‘love’, maybe?
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Hey, I just stumbled upon this blog searching “how to change the world” because I’m starting an organization on the subject and I wanted to see what’s out there. This is the post that caught my eye. I just wanted to say that I generally agree. I do prefer the company of nonhuman animals to humans, for the same reasons. But remember that other animals are probably just as good at conversing as we are – we just can’t understand what they’re saying. It’s interesting because the fact that they can learn commands proves that they can understand us, and I think that says something. I mean, I can barely distinguish between the different sounds particular nonhuman animals make (a cat’s different purs, for example), and I know I’m far from alone on that.I also agree that people often imagine people to be who they want them to be. Actually, I think it may be possible, though, for most people to find other people who fit their ideals, even if it’s very difficult. For example, I have four of the qualities you mentioned, the fifth being “exceptional intelligence.” Not that I’m stupid, just not exceptionally intelligent. As for me, I tend to look for people who are creative, intelligent, and relatively selfless. I am learning to be more realistic, but I still think I know a few people who fit the description. However, I do try to love everyone for all their qualities, which gets easier the more I practice it. It’s just that I still choose to spend more time with people whose qualities I particularly admire or with whom I can particularly identify. It just makes me feel generally happier, more inspired, and better about myself and the world in general, and I think that’s okay.Also, I plan to start an intentional community as well. I feel like a sense of community can be the solution to all the world’s problems…
Funny, I was not expecting this content from that title. It´s really about people, not about animal love.