![]() One of these lessons I will write about in a separate post. It is all about love and friendship and openness and generosity. The other two are easier to explain, by simply relating the conversations from which they emerged: Self-Managers Do Not Need Leaders Not a leader. I am a ‘thought leader’ but the word ‘leader’ in that context has a completely different sense. I lead people to new ideas. I don’t tell them what to do with them, or what to do at all, or how to do anything. I listen and offer ideas when I’m asked for them, but even then it’s really as a sounding board and story-teller, not as someone telling people what they should do. I’m somewhere, as Jeremy Heigh and I have discussed, between a facilitator and a coach. Definitely not a leader. Had more than enough of them.
In response to this, Jon took me to task for defining ‘leader’ too narrowly. There is much more to leadership (a word, by the way, that has no equivalent word in most languages — I’d speculate because they have no need for one; it means literally ‘the ability to go first’), Jon said, than “telling people what to do”. I replied:
Telling them, showing them, fighting their battles for them, ‘managing’ them, advising them what they did right/wrong, making decisions for them, assessing their ‘performance’, changing their work processes/rewards/environment
My self-set role is to provoke them with new ideas, to listen to them, to relay what others I’ve listened to have told me, to tell them true stories from my own experience, to suggest workarounds when they’re stumped, to do stuff myself that they might find interesting or inspirational, and, when I must (because I’m paid for it) to help them remove obstacles.
This is not leadership even in the broadest sense of ‘leading by example’ because I don’t expect them to ‘follow’. It’s also not ‘liberal’ leadership in the Lakoff ‘nurturing parent’ sense — if I was responsible for a bunch of young apprentices I might play a nurturing role, but our organization doesn’t hire anyone green. So I expect them not to need ‘parenting’ and to be able to self-manage. Self-managers don’t need leaders. I think Jon and I agreed to disagree on this, but perhaps that’s because I have more faith than most people in the ability of the majority to learn to self-manage. Wild creatures learn the five steps of self-management through a combination of intuition, play and experimentation. We are so indoctrinated with Learned Helplessness it is perhaps harder for us, but my experience has been that when you give people the chance they pick it up pretty quickly. You Can’t Change People; You Can Only Help Them to Let-Self-Change, and Then Only By Touching Them Personally My podcast #3, featuring Rob Paterson, will be going up here later this week. I’ve recently been conversing with Rob about how change happens. Rob has an ambitious proposal to help make the people of Prince Edward Island more resilient to some of the crises we see hitting us all in the decades ahead. It begins with radical reform of the education system (more about this in the podcast). The change management process he proposes to bring this about (based on Alan Deutschman’s work) is as follows:
Rob’s proposal is bold (it is based heavily on early child development that involves parents learning how to create a high-trust, authoritative but not authoritarian relationship with their youngsters). It is impassioned, sensible, supported by extensive research, and well-articulated. If anything can work, it will. But I confess I’m dubious. Although I used to be an enthusiast of the leading ‘change management’ approaches, experience suggests to me that they don’t work. They can achieve significant temporary change (which I guess is OK in business, where the short term is all most people care about), but it never seems to be sustainable. There is far too much ‘drag’ from existing mindsets, processes and institutions (i.e. our present culture) to achieve anything lasting.
The best we can do, I think, is help people we meet personally find viable workarounds that work for them, one on one. If we can get a few parents to spend more and better time with their small children, and improve their nutrition, that will be an important accomplishment. It is caring, attention and patience that is required, not persuasion. If you give them time — and only if you give them time — people are open to better ways of doing things. This requires a huge and sustained investment of one-on-one work, and a lot of patience, and improvisation from the teachers, mentors and social workers to adapt their approach to the needs and learning styles of each child and his or her parents. It’s a mammoth task. People are only up for a mammoth task when they absolutely have no other choice. We do what we must, when we must. For that reason, I fear, it is likely to be a great idea that gets only limited implementation. As I keep saying, things are the way they are for a reason. I suspect in his heart Rob knows the reasons the situation in PEI is especially serious and well-entrenched. I hope I’m wrong, and his program gets adopted and works brilliantly. But if I’m right, I hope Rob won’t get discouraged. It is a great plan. I’ve recently reset my own goals and intentions; they’re now much more personal, singular, modest, inspirational more than aspirational. Stories, not plans. Demonstration not persuasion. Being generous, not ambitious. We only change the people we touch, personally, intensely, generously, unambitiously. We change them by helping them, patiently, to let-themselves-change.
And we only have that much patience with people we love. That means we have to learn to love more people, more openly, more generously, no small Let-Self-Change challenge in itself, before we will be ready for the task Rob compellingly argues must begin immediately. I wish we were allup for it, but I just don’t see it. Category: Let-Self-Change
|
Navigation
Collapsniks
Albert Bates (US)
Andrew Nikiforuk (CA)
Brutus (US)
Carolyn Baker (US)*
Catherine Ingram (US)
Chris Hedges (US)
Dahr Jamail (US)
Dean Spillane-Walker (US)*
Derrick Jensen (US)
Dougald & Paul (IE/SE)*
Gail Tverberg (US)
Guy McPherson (US)
Honest Sorcerer
Janaia & Robin (US)*
Jem Bendell (UK)
Mari Werner
Michael Dowd (US)*
Nate Hagens (US)
Paul Heft (US)*
Post Carbon Inst. (US)
Resilience (US)
Richard Heinberg (US)
Robert Jensen (US)
Roy Scranton (US)
Sam Mitchell (US)
Tim Watkins (UK)
Umair Haque (UK)
William Rees (CA)
XrayMike (AU)
Radical Non-Duality
Essential Reading
Archive by Category
My Bio, Contact Info, Signature Posts
About the Author (2023)
My Circles
E-mail me
--- My Best 200 Posts, 2003-22 by category, from newest to oldest ---
Collapse Watch:
Hope — On the Balance of Probabilities
The Caste War for the Dregs
Recuperation, Accommodation, Resilience
How Do We Teach the Critical Skills
Collapse Not Apocalypse
Effective Activism
'Making Sense of the World' Reading List
Notes From the Rising Dark
What is Exponential Decay
Collapse: Slowly Then Suddenly
Slouching Towards Bethlehem
Making Sense of Who We Are
What Would Net-Zero Emissions Look Like?
Post Collapse with Michael Dowd (video)
Why Economic Collapse Will Precede Climate Collapse
Being Adaptable: A Reminder List
A Culture of Fear
What Will It Take?
A Future Without Us
Dean Walker Interview (video)
The Mushroom at the End of the World
What Would It Take To Live Sustainably?
The New Political Map (Poster)
Beyond Belief
Complexity and Collapse
Requiem for a Species
Civilization Disease
What a Desolated Earth Looks Like
If We Had a Better Story...
Giving Up on Environmentalism
The Hard Part is Finding People Who Care
Going Vegan
The Dark & Gathering Sameness of the World
The End of Philosophy
A Short History of Progress
The Boiling Frog
Our Culture / Ourselves:
A CoVid-19 Recap
What It Means to be Human
A Culture Built on Wrong Models
Understanding Conservatives
Our Unique Capacity for Hatred
Not Meant to Govern Each Other
The Humanist Trap
Credulous
Amazing What People Get Used To
My Reluctant Misanthropy
The Dawn of Everything
Species Shame
Why Misinformation Doesn't Work
The Lab-Leak Hypothesis
The Right to Die
CoVid-19: Go for Zero
Pollard's Laws
On Caste
The Process of Self-Organization
The Tragic Spread of Misinformation
A Better Way to Work
The Needs of the Moment
Ask Yourself This
What to Believe Now?
Rogue Primate
Conversation & Silence
The Language of Our Eyes
True Story
May I Ask a Question?
Cultural Acedia: When We Can No Longer Care
Useless Advice
Several Short Sentences About Learning
Why I Don't Want to Hear Your Story
A Harvest of Myths
The Qualities of a Great Story
The Trouble With Stories
A Model of Identity & Community
Not Ready to Do What's Needed
A Culture of Dependence
So What's Next
Ten Things to Do When You're Feeling Hopeless
No Use to the World Broken
Living in Another World
Does Language Restrict What We Can Think?
The Value of Conversation Manifesto Nobody Knows Anything
If I Only Had 37 Days
The Only Life We Know
A Long Way Down
No Noble Savages
Figments of Reality
Too Far Ahead
Learning From Nature
The Rogue Animal
How the World Really Works:
Making Sense of Scents
An Age of Wonder
The Truth About Ukraine
Navigating Complexity
The Supply Chain Problem
The Promise of Dialogue
Too Dumb to Take Care of Ourselves
Extinction Capitalism
Homeless
Republicans Slide Into Fascism
All the Things I Was Wrong About
Several Short Sentences About Sharks
How Change Happens
What's the Best Possible Outcome?
The Perpetual Growth Machine
We Make Zero
How Long We've Been Around (graphic)
If You Wanted to Sabotage the Elections
Collective Intelligence & Complexity
Ten Things I Wish I'd Learned Earlier
The Problem With Systems
Against Hope (Video)
The Admission of Necessary Ignorance
Several Short Sentences About Jellyfish
Loren Eiseley, in Verse
A Synopsis of 'Finding the Sweet Spot'
Learning from Indigenous Cultures
The Gift Economy
The Job of the Media
The Wal-Mart Dilemma
The Illusion of the Separate Self, and Free Will:
No Free Will, No Freedom
The Other Side of 'No Me'
This Body Takes Me For a Walk
The Only One Who Really Knew Me
No Free Will — Fightin' Words
The Paradox of the Self
A Radical Non-Duality FAQ
What We Think We Know
Bark Bark Bark Bark Bark Bark Bark
Healing From Ourselves
The Entanglement Hypothesis
Nothing Needs to Happen
Nothing to Say About This
What I Wanted to Believe
A Continuous Reassemblage of Meaning
No Choice But to Misbehave
What's Apparently Happening
A Different Kind of Animal
Happy Now?
This Creature
Did Early Humans Have Selves?
Nothing On Offer Here
Even Simpler and More Hopeless Than That
Glimpses
How Our Bodies Sense the World
Fragments
What Happens in Vagus
We Have No Choice
Never Comfortable in the Skin of Self
Letting Go of the Story of Me
All There Is, Is This
A Theory of No Mind
Creative Works:
Mindful Wanderings (Reflections) (Archive)
A Prayer to No One
Frogs' Hollow (Short Story)
We Do What We Do (Poem)
Negative Assertions (Poem)
Reminder (Short Story)
A Canadian Sorry (Satire)
Under No Illusions (Short Story)
The Ever-Stranger (Poem)
The Fortune Teller (Short Story)
Non-Duality Dude (Play)
Your Self: An Owner's Manual (Satire)
All the Things I Thought I Knew (Short Story)
On the Shoulders of Giants (Short Story)
Improv (Poem)
Calling the Cage Freedom (Short Story)
Rune (Poem)
Only This (Poem)
The Other Extinction (Short Story)
Invisible (Poem)
Disruption (Short Story)
A Thought-Less Experiment (Poem)
Speaking Grosbeak (Short Story)
The Only Way There (Short Story)
The Wild Man (Short Story)
Flywheel (Short Story)
The Opposite of Presence (Satire)
How to Make Love Last (Poem)
The Horses' Bodies (Poem)
Enough (Lament)
Distracted (Short Story)
Worse, Still (Poem)
Conjurer (Satire)
A Conversation (Short Story)
Farewell to Albion (Poem)
My Other Sites
I really like Rob’s views on changing people. You (and him?) should definitely read Influencer, a new book by the same authors of Crucial Conversations and Crucial Confrontations. It’s also backed by solid research.
RE:Self-Managers Do Not Need Leaders. This business of thought leader sounds to me like the latest play on words. This is the same stuff we see in the capitalist arena. People coming up with new names to describe the same old thing. How does calling yourself a thought leader, make you a thought leader. To me it’s like every company now labeling their product as green even though that product hasn’t changed. It’s all about marketing.
You formula for letting self change is the same formula for great leaders. A great leader is someone who creates an environment in which everyone is at his/her most effective. This is as true in self-managed folks as those managed by other(s). Thanks Meryn for Crucial tips. Fierce Conversations is worth a quick read too.
….And we only have that much patience with people we love. That means we have to learn to love more people, more openly, more generously, no small Let-Self-Change challenge in itself, before we will be ready for the task Rob compellingly argues must begin immediately. I wish we were all up for it, but I just don’t see it….
I think Jon and I agreed to disagree on this, but perhaps that’s because I have more faith than most people in the ability of the majority to learn to self-manage.I am not sure we disagreed. I think you may have left out the last part of our back-and-forth where I said that many people have yet to go through the unlearning process you call Let-Self-Change, wherein dissatisfaction and frustration often help people begin to “unlearn” what has been baked into them through schooling, first jobs, the pressures of building a home, a family and a career and paying for it all (which often or usually means that they have to “obey” the system for a while), and so on. I think lots of people get into (or are helped into it by events) unlearning in the second halves of their lives .. we often don’t have enough context and ironically carry a surfeit of self-confidence in the first half such that we play the game for a while until we begin to see through it … which is then when we start to drop the need for being led.